{"id":1202,"date":"2011-12-16T21:17:30","date_gmt":"2011-12-16T20:17:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cfdt-spie.com\/?p=1202"},"modified":"2023-11-28T14:51:14","modified_gmt":"2023-11-28T13:51:14","slug":"spie-infoservices-veut-licencier-mais-sans-verser-les-indemnites","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cfdt-spie.com\/?p=1202","title":{"rendered":"Spie Infoservices veut licencier mais sans verser les indemnit\u00e9s"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00c0\n Toulouse, le sous-traitant informatique a mis en place des contrats \u00e0 \ndur\u00e9e ind\u00e9termin\u00e9e de chantier (Cdic) pour s\u2019exon\u00e9rer des indemnit\u00e9s de \nlicenciement. Les salari\u00e9s contestent la l\u00e9galit\u00e9 de cette pratique.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Toulouse, correspondance.<\/strong>\n Airbus confiait jusqu\u2019\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent la maintenance de son r\u00e9seau \ninformatique \u00e0 T-Systems qui, \u00e0 son tour, d\u00e9l\u00e9guait cette t\u00e2che \u00e0 Spie \nInfoservices, une sous-traitance \u00e0 deux niveaux afin de comprimer les \nco\u00fbts et les salaires. Mais le g\u00e9ant Airbus a trouv\u00e9 encore moins cher \nailleurs. C\u2019est bient\u00f4t Computa Center qui, depuis Barcelone et Berlin, \nassurera la maintenance informatique de l\u2019avionneur europ\u00e9en. T-Systems \net, par cons\u00e9quent, Spie Infoservices perdent leur principal client.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00c0 Toulouse, o\u00f9 les deux entreprises cohabitent sur le m\u00eame site, \nT-Systems supprime 52\u202femplois et Spie Infoservices 52\u202femplois \u00e9galement.\n La sous-traitance est en cascade et les licenciements aussi. \nL\u2019\u00e9tablissement toulousain de Spie Infoservices va \u00eatre ray\u00e9 de la \ncarte. Les salari\u00e9s de ces deux entreprises doivent cependant affronter \ndes situations diff\u00e9rentes. Du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de T-Systems, le comit\u00e9 d\u2019entreprise\n a d\u00e9pos\u00e9 un recours juridique contre un plan de suppressions d\u2019emplois \nqui ne respectait pas les droits des salari\u00e9s. La direction a alors \nbloqu\u00e9 unilat\u00e9ralement la proc\u00e9dure, laissant les salari\u00e9s dans \nl\u2019incertitude.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de Spie Infoservices, la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 est plus complexe\u2009: \nquarante-quatre des salari\u00e9s licenci\u00e9s ont pour statut un contrat \u00e0 \ndur\u00e9e ind\u00e9termin\u00e9e de chantier (Cdic). Autrement dit, lorsque les \nlicenciements interviendront courant janvier, ils n\u2019auraient pas droit \naux mesures d\u2019accompagnement et se contenteraient d\u2019indemnit\u00e9s nulles ou\n d\u00e9risoires. \u00ab\u202fLes entreprises veulent se d\u00e9barrasser des salari\u00e9s \u00e0 \nmoindres frais et sans passer par le cadre l\u00e9gal\u202f\u00bb, accuse une \ninformaticienne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les Cdic, utilis\u00e9s dans les secteurs du BTP, de la r\u00e9paration navale \nou du cin\u00e9ma, sont-ils l\u00e9gaux dans l\u2019informatique et la m\u00e9tallurgie\u2009? Un\n avocat, sollicit\u00e9 par les salari\u00e9s, a constat\u00e9 que la m\u00e9tallurgie ne \nfait pas usage des Cdic, m\u00eame si une convention collective de 1976, \nsign\u00e9e dans cette r\u00e9gion Midi-Pyr\u00e9n\u00e9es, \u00e9voque \u00ab\u202fles salari\u00e9s embauch\u00e9s \npour un chantier\u202f\u00bb. Les contrats impos\u00e9s par Spie Infoservices utilisent\n le mot \u00ab\u202fchantier\u202f\u00bb. Mais un travail p\u00e9renne de maintenance pour un \nclient peut-il \u00eatre qualifi\u00e9 de \u00ab\u202fchantier\u202f\u00bb\u2009? L\u2019inspection du travail \nen doute fortement et l\u2019a signifi\u00e9 \u00e0 la direction. Elle encourage aussi \nles salari\u00e9s \u00e0 engager une proc\u00e9dure aux prud\u2019hommes, ce qu\u2019ils \ns\u2019appr\u00eatent \u00e0 faire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les informaticiens prennent acte des suppressions d\u2019emplois mais sont\n inflexibles sur cette revendication\u2009: les Cdic doivent \u00eatre transform\u00e9s\n en CDI. En attendant, le site toulousain vit ses derni\u00e8res semaines \ndans une ambiance tr\u00e8s p\u00e9nible. \u00ab\u202fLa direction et le management essaient\n de nous faire craquer\u202f\u00bb, relate \u00c9milie Bastide. Le personnel de Spie \nInfoservices a d\u00e9bray\u00e9 mercredi matin et il en sera de m\u00eame ce matin \u00e0 \nT-Systems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Qu\u2019est-ce qu\u2019un CDIC\u2009?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un contrat \u00e0 dur\u00e9e ind\u00e9termin\u00e9e de chantier (Cdic) est \u00e9tabli pour  une t\u00e2che appel\u00e9e \u00e0 prendre fin \u00e0 une certaine \u00e9ch\u00e9ance. Il doit  mentionner obligatoirement le lieu et la dur\u00e9e pr\u00e9visible du chantier.  Il est aussi imp\u00e9ratif de faire figurer le nom pr\u00e9cis du chantier pour  lequel le salari\u00e9 doit travailler. S\u2019il n\u2019est pas stipul\u00e9 que le contrat  est \u00e9tabli pour la dur\u00e9e d\u2019un chantier en particulier, le Cdic pourra  \u00eatre requalifi\u00e9 en CDI par les prud\u2019hommes.<br> Bruno Vincens <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">source: https:\/\/www.humanite.fr\/social-eco\/spie-infoservices-veut-licencier-mais-sans-verser-les-indemnites-486117<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&Agrave; Toulouse, le sous-traitant informatique a mis en place des contrats &agrave; dur&eacute;e ind&eacute;termin&eacute;e de chantier (Cdic) pour s&rsquo;exon&eacute;rer des indemnit&eacute;s de licenciement. 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