{"id":2024,"date":"2020-11-21T19:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-11-21T18:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cfdt-spie.com\/?p=2024"},"modified":"2020-11-24T16:10:57","modified_gmt":"2020-11-24T15:10:57","slug":"compte-rendu-rapide-du-cse-extraordinaire-spie-infoservices-du-20-11-2020-hacking","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cfdt-spie.com\/?p=2024","title":{"rendered":"Compte-rendu rapide du CSE Extraordinaire SPIE Infoservices du 20\/11\/2020 \u00ab\u00a0Hacking\u00a0\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:20px\"><strong><em>Point sur les suites du hacking de Nefilim du 14 juillet dernier<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span class=\"has-inline-color has-yellow-color\"><em>En italique et en jaune : citation de la direction de SPIE INFOSERVICES.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><span style=\"color:#ed4e09\" class=\"has-inline-color\">LE COURRIER : <\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><br>\u00b7 <strong>Pourquoi la copie de la plainte de SPIE n\u2019a-t-elle pas \u00e9t\u00e9 envoy\u00e9e avec le courrier ? : <\/strong><span style=\"color:#766d6b\" class=\"has-inline-color\">le num\u00e9ro vous sera  communiqu\u00e9 et vous permettra de poser de plainte<\/span><br>\u00b7 <strong>Pourquoi le courrier a-t-il \u00e9t\u00e9 envoy\u00e9 aussi tard ? (attaque le 14 juillet \u2013 d\u00e9part des courriers le 30 octobre)? :<\/strong> <span class=\"has-inline-color has-grey-color\">Le temps pour l&rsquo;expert d\u2019analyser <\/span><span class=\"has-inline-color has-cfdt-color\">les fichiers <\/span><br>\u00b7 <strong>Pourquoi la formulation utilis\u00e9e est aussi anxiog\u00e8ne pour le destinataire car elle laisse \u00e0 supposer que d\u2019autres donn\u00e9es ont pu \u00eatre divulgu\u00e9es ?<\/strong> :<em><span class=\"has-inline-color has-yellow-color\"> La formulation utilis\u00e9e met l\u2019accent sur ces donn\u00e9es sensibles. ( donn\u00e9es personnelles fortement identifiantes.: une pi\u00e8ce d\u2019identit\u00e9, un num\u00e9ro de S\u00e9curit\u00e9 Sociale, des coordonn\u00e9es bancaires, c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire susceptibles de pr\u00e9senter un risque \u00e9lev\u00e9 d\u2019une usurpation d\u2019identit\u00e9 ou d\u2019une fraude, ce qui n\u2019est pas le cas d\u2019autres donn\u00e9es qui auraient pu \u00eatre \u00e9galement copi\u00e9es, par exemple, l\u2019adresse d\u2019un collaborateur n\u2019est pas une donn\u00e9e sensible<\/span><\/em><br>\u00b7 <strong>Courrier re\u00e7u en lettre simple fin octobre, d\u00e9but novembre donc non trait\u00e9 en priorit\u00e9 par la poste (confinement oblige), non recommand\u00e9 (contrairement aux dires de la direction lors du CSE de septembre), non dat\u00e9, non sign\u00e9<\/strong> : <em><span class=\"has-inline-color has-yellow-color\">Les courriers \u00e9mis sont des courriers officiels, \u00e9mis sur papier ent\u00eate de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 et sign\u00e9s par une personne l\u00e9gitime. Le fait qu\u2019il n\u2019y ait pas de signature manuscrite ne leur enl\u00e8ve pas leur validit\u00e9. Les courriers ont \u00e9t\u00e9 pr\u00e9par\u00e9s et envoy\u00e9s par publipostage d\u00e8s que cela a \u00e9t\u00e9 possible, mais la date exacte d\u2019envoi est incertaine compte tenu du contexte sanitaire<\/span><\/em><br>\u00b7 <strong>Pourquoi Mr Balloy et Mr Decosse n\u2019ont-ils pas re\u00e7u de courrier en Aout alors que leur adresse postale a \u00e9t\u00e9 divulgu\u00e9e ? Pourquoi dans les courriers dat\u00e9s du 30 octobre, il n\u2019en n\u2019ait pas fait mention ?<\/strong> : <em><span class=\"has-inline-color has-yellow-color\">Parce que ce  ne sont pas des donn\u00e9es sensibles au regard des risques d\u00e9j\u00e0 mentionn\u00e9s<\/span><\/em><br>\u00b7 <strong>Est-ce que un autre courrier expliquant la situation et pr\u00e9parant les salari\u00e9s \u00e0 recevoir cette lettre a \u00e9t\u00e9 envoy\u00e9 aux autres entit\u00e9s ?<\/strong> <span class=\"has-inline-color has-grey-color\">pas de courrier.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><br><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><span style=\"color:#ed4e09\" class=\"has-inline-color\">LES SERVEURS :<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><br>\u00b7 <strong>Quels serveurs ont \u00e9t\u00e9 touch\u00e9s et quelles sont les autres informations susceptibles d\u2019avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 divulgu\u00e9es ? <\/strong><br>\u00b7 <strong>Combien de serveurs ont \u00e9t\u00e9 attaqu\u00e9s et que contenaient-ils ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><span class=\"has-inline-color has-grey-color\">Une r\u00e9ponse globale a \u00e9t\u00e9 donn\u00e9e : Des serveurs du groupe hormis les filiales de quelques pays et  contenant des documents de gestion interne<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><br><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><span style=\"color:#ed4e09\" class=\"has-inline-color\">LA HOTLINE :<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><br>\u00b7 <strong>Hotline qui r\u00e9pond : l\u2019entreprise vous a inform\u00e9 de la fraude sur vos donn\u00e9es maintenant c\u2019est \u00e0 vous de faire les d\u00e9marches aupr\u00e8s<br>des organismes concern\u00e9s (ex : CPAM ou Banque). Quel est l\u2019utilit\u00e9 de cette hotline ?<\/strong>  <span class=\"has-inline-color has-yellow-color\"><em>La hotline prodigue que des conseils concrets sur des d\u00e9marches \u00e0 effectuer en fonction des besoins de chacun. Les situations particuli\u00e8res sont remont\u00e9es \u00e0 Spie Op\u00e9rations. Dans la grande majorit\u00e9 des cas, les personnes ayant contact\u00e9 la hotline repartent en \u00e9tant rassur\u00e9es sur leur compr\u00e9hension.<\/em><\/span><br>\u00b7 <strong>Qui g\u00e8re cette hotline ? :<\/strong> <span class=\"has-inline-color has-grey-color\">Un prestataire externe mandat\u00e9 par Spie Op\u00e9rations<\/span><br>\u00b7 <strong>Qui a \u00e9crit les r\u00e9ponses types de la hotline ?<\/strong> : <span class=\"has-inline-color has-yellow-color\"><em>Ces r\u00e9ponses sont d\u00e9finies d\u2019un commun accord avec Spie Op\u00e9rations et le prestataire de la hotline et ont fait l\u2019objet de compl\u00e9ments suite \u00e0 certains sujets remont\u00e9s. Elle \u00e9volue au fur et \u00e0 mesure.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><br><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">LES RESPONSABILITES DE SPIE OPERATIONS :<\/span> <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-justify has-black-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><br>\u00b7 <strong>Quelles sont responsabilit\u00e9s de SPIE Op\u00e9rations en cas utilisation frauduleuse des donn\u00e9es ayant un impact direct sur le salari\u00e9<br>(usurpation d\u2019identit\u00e9, d\u2019utilisation de France connect avec le num\u00e9ro de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale, obtention frauduleuse de cr\u00e9dit, etc\u2026)<\/strong> : <span class=\"has-inline-color has-yellow-color\">Spie a une assurance qui permettrait d\u2019indemniser le salari\u00e9 en cas de pr\u00e9judice av\u00e9r\u00e9 directement li\u00e9 \u00e0 la copie des donn\u00e9es sur la base de documents justificatifs utiles \u00e0 l&rsquo;analyse du dossier. C\u2019est important \u00e0 savoir. Toute personne qui a un pr\u00e9judice suite \u00e0 la copie de donn\u00e9es sensibles peut se retourner vers Spie qui pourrait mettre en marche son assurance.<\/span><br>\u00b7 <strong>SPIE Op\u00e9rations a-t-elle pris une assurance pour couvrir les salari\u00e9s suite aux divulgations de leurs divers num\u00e9ros de compte en<br>banque ou de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale alors m\u00eame qu\u2019elle a la totale responsabilit\u00e9 du piratage des informations et de la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 des donn\u00e9espersonnelles qu\u2019elle d\u00e9tient ?<\/strong>  : <span class=\"has-inline-color has-yellow-color\"><em>Spie dispose d&rsquo;une assurance qui \u00e9tait d\u00e9j\u00e0 en place avant la cyberattaque. Cette assurance permet indemniser le salari\u00e9 en cas de pr\u00e9judice av\u00e9r\u00e9 directement li\u00e9 \u00e0 la copie des donn\u00e9es sur la base de documents justificatifs.<\/em><\/span><br>\u00b7 <strong>Pourquoi SPIE Op\u00e9rations d\u00e9tient ce type des informations des salari\u00e9s de SPIE INFOSERVICES dans ces serveurs ? Les salari\u00e9s<br>ont-ils donn\u00e9 leur accord pour cela ?<\/strong> <span class=\"has-inline-color has-yellow-color\"><em>Spie Op\u00e9rations est la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 holding du groupe, certains sujets sont centralis\u00e9s \u00e0 son niveau. Elle peut donc l\u00e9gitimement d\u00e9tenir des donn\u00e9es de salari\u00e9s que ce soit pour des communications aux salari\u00e9s, des actions d&rsquo;actionnariat, salari\u00e9, etc<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><\/h2>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Point sur les suites du hacking de Nefilim du 14 juillet dernier En italique et en jaune : citation de la direction de SPIE INFOSERVICES.<a href=\"https:\/\/cfdt-spie.com\/?p=2024\" class=\"more-link\">(plus&#8230;)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1122,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21,287],"tags":[310,257,311],"class_list":["post-2024","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-comite-social-et-economique-spie-infoservices","category-spie-ics-ex-infoservices","tag-compte-rendu-cse-spie-infoservices","tag-hack","tag-leaks"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.8 - 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